tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5021648510751417000.post8802880517575375040..comments2023-11-02T06:38:44.129-06:00Comments on What Would the Founding Fathers Do?: The trouble with LiberalsDoug Haginhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02549881668152726707noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5021648510751417000.post-36873303571100316412010-04-30T23:43:46.150-05:002010-04-30T23:43:46.150-05:00Wow this is a joke of a post right. Any student of...Wow this is a joke of a post right. Any student of history knows that our founding fathers were completely against the notion of giving corporations the rights of individuals, yet our supreme court has managed to do that. This ruling came from conservatives I may add, not liberals. And as any student of history can tell you, no one is born with any rights. Liberty is a social invention that is invented and reinvented by the bourgeoisie class in everyone society whenever there is a class revolution, liberty in the U.S. in 2008 doesn't mean liberty in 1845 or 1776 or liberty in Rome C. 300 CE or Egypt C. 1000 BCE. What is liberty? Is liberty the freedom to act or is liberty the absence of coercion. Is liberty the protection from tyranny and force or is liberty the freedom from the lack of means and opportunity to success.<br /><br />I also have a problem with your reasoning ability, Social Justice does not mean Marxism. Social Justice means the equality to opportunity, not the enforcement of equality under your supposed "Marxism" (which by the way is not what Marx had in mind as anyone who has truly studied the history of economic thought will tell you, maybe you are speaking of Leninism). The notion itself that Social Justice equals Marxism is created by those who don't want any form of justice in the world as they would stand to lose, those who truly don't understand either notion and are just parrots, or people who are too alienated from the notion of a new society that Social Justice would create based on the social phenomenon of social conflict.<br /><br />Not that I completely disagree with everything in this post. The left is guilty of wanting a colorblind world, but pursing politics that is not colorblind. But the right is guilty of its own political hypocrisy. And one more point that I want to make, why are the Founding Fathers so adamantly revered by so many people in our society. I know this is a blog called "What Would the Founding Fathers Do?", therefore I am basically paint a target on my here, but seriously, we treat them like messiahs, prophets from god. For as much as we criticize Islam for following the Koran to the letter, isn't the same thing done over here with the constitution. We treat it as if this is the pinnacle of man's triumph in government, and that better can't be striven for. Thomas Jefferson seems to be the person always mentioned these people, and while Jefferson was a really knowledgeable person, he was also a really inconsistent person in terms of beliefs and actions. You believe in states right, but then make the Louisiana purchase. And of course you believe in liberty, but then you own slaves, which goes back to the whole notion of liberty. Liberty for who and to do what. Okay, I am done.Bigvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14286721672498946099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5021648510751417000.post-91403347288730003492010-04-30T23:38:27.707-05:002010-04-30T23:38:27.707-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bigvichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14286721672498946099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5021648510751417000.post-64433175802075748052010-04-24T15:59:49.452-05:002010-04-24T15:59:49.452-05:00Good thoughts. I'm very concerned about libera...Good thoughts. I'm very concerned about liberal's willingness to steal from producers. See the article: "Liberal Progressive Muggers."<br />http://constitutionparti.blogspot.com/Christian Prophethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10020964652943679070noreply@blogger.com